From the Sun-Times:
'You are just on very bad turf with me,' Fawell growls
October 26, 2005
BY NATASHA KORECKI Federal Courts Reporter
George Ryan's onetime top aide Scott Fawell lashed out at a prosecutor Tuesday,
ending weeks of often testy testimony in Ryan's corruption trial just as he started
it -- with attitude.
"I'm not threatening you, you are just on very bad turf with me,"
Fawell spat at Assistant U.S. Attorney Patrick Collins as he warded off questions
about his fiancee, Andrea Coutretsis.
"You know this is a very touchy subject with me. ... You know that we have
gone through this 100 times, you and I. It's beating a dead horse to me.
"But go ahead, you do what you got to do."
The exchange punctuated a combative relationship between prosecutors and
Fawell, the government's top witness in Ryan's trial. Fawell was the first witness
in the trial that just entered its fifth week. He worked for Ryan when Ryan was
secretary of state and was the political mastermind behind Ryan's 1998 win for
governor.
The eruption occurred as Collins countered Fawell's statements that he's reluctantly
testifying against Ryan because prosecutors turned up the pressure and put Fawell's
"head in a vise."
'Andrea happens to love me'
Fawell, serving a 61/2-year prison sentence for a public corruption conviction,
said he believes prosecutors indicted Coutretsis to get him to flip. Fawell's
cooperation could keep her out of prison as part of a plea deal.
Fawell -- who broke into tears earlier in the trial when asked about his
fiancee -- snapped Tuesday when Collins noted that Coutretsis had been given immunity
to testify before a grand jury and was only prosecuted after she lied. Coutretsis
later pleaded guilty.
"Andrea happens to love me. She could not tighten the noose around
my neck, so did she fudge on some answers? Probably, because she doesn't have
it in her heart to hang me," Fawell angrily said.
"If that's a crime -- and I guess it is -- then you guys prosecute to your
heart's content."
Collins tried to continue but Fawell, shifting in his chair and clearly agitated,
asked if he could answer "no" to every other question. After a long
pause, Collins changed the subject.
"Thank you," Fawell said.
'Just the facts'
Ryan, 71, is on trial with lobbyist Lawrence Warner, 67, on charges Ryan
steered contracts to friends such as Warner and accepted gifts, vacations and
other perks in return.
Ryan's attorney, Dan Webb, countered a prosecution's contention that Fawell
had been testifying about his opinions by asking him "just the facts."
'You're kidding, right?'
Fawell said he never saw Ryan promise Warner money from state contracts.
In one case, Webb asked whether it was a fact that state technical professionals
deemed IBM to have the best proposal for a massive computer mainframe contract.
Fawell said it did.
After he was dismissed as a witness, Fawell joked: "You're kidding, right?"
He was briefly taken outside the courtroom but then returned. Smiling, he
repeatedly waved goodbye to Warner, his wife and other people he knew. Fawell
didn't leave until, finally, Ryan returned the wave.
RYAN TRIAL HIGHLIGHTS
Prosecutors: Clash with their star witness Scott Fawell after asking about his
fiancee lying to the grand jury.
Defense: At one point asks for a mistrial, saying a prosecutor wrongly took part
in "jury verdict bolstering" by bringing up Fawell's jury conviction.
Judge tries to resolve matter with a jury instruction.
Up next: Cross-examination of a witness who said Ryan friend Larry Warner asked
for a fee after the witness won a state contract.
Fawell later said Collins could "attack me all you want" but warned
Collins about discussing Coutretsis, his former aide.
"I'm not attacking her," Collins shot back.